READERS COMMENTS

Check out Eddie Bauer First Ascent gear pretty good stuff and better prices and goes on sale frequently for 20-30% off. The BC-200 is a newer waterproof shell that is supposed to be nice. My $.02
Posted: Mar 03, 2012 Roger

I would like to know what actual tests were and what method was used to "measure" their results as stated by the Testers that the jackets were 20% to 30% more breathable than anything they used before and what as the "Base" figures from the preious items they wore before??

Also how do you know the Manufactuers supplied Data and information was entirely accurate versus Marketing baloney or Claims, so it appears that you just took for "Granted" like Pack weights and sleeping Bags temperatures that what the Manufacturers provided was truly accurate?

So then, why do you bother to claim you test this stuff,,it appears your just regurgitating what the Company's tell you to regurgitate...Oh how I pine for Mr. Rodale to be alive when his Magazine was a creditable source of information...and I was one of the original subscribers...so I know...
Posted: Mar 01, 2012 meanolddog

Why weren't any eVent jackets tested? Information I have seen indicates that eVent is much more breathable than the membranes in the test.
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 John

THOSE are the jackets you test? Mtn. Hardware and Columbia are the same company for starters. What a terrible comparison. This email goes out to, what, thousands, millions of people? And most of them will just see the tag line of what is best. Next time take the time to actually compare and contrast the jackets in more than a paragraph... this is what makes Consumer Reports so popular, f.y.i.
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 Chad

It's funny that when BP does a comparison of a few items, readers want more. I guess that is why the annual Gear Guide is so popular. Some people expect the content of the gear guide in every review. That's ok and I suppose I do the same thing. What I find most helpful in the gear reviews are those little things - plusses & minusses - that let me prepare in my mind how a particular piece of gear will perform in certain circumstances. For example, I know that every jacket has limitations, like how it breaths when I am climbing in a cold drenching rain verses dry windy snow or summer humidity. Understanding those little things help me plan better and make me a better backpacker.
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 Steve C

I too have an Arc and I am disappointed that some of the other high end makers didn't make it at least to the testing in this. The article is interesting but it is misleading by being named the "Best" when you only tested some.

FWIW - My Arc DWR failed within the first week. It has been retreated by Arc and I am wondering what it will be like next season. If it fails, Arc will get MANY bad reviews popping up all over the place.
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 Ken

a bit pricey, what?
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 Lean Lyle

Their's no way these jackets are worth that kind of money.These companies are testing the market for suckers that will pay for that kind of teckie gotta have the newest apparel. These jackets are made in some slave driven country for 30 cents a day workers. The profit these companies are making is disgusting. Anybody that would pay that kind of money should save the money for psycho analyst.
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 Bob Mac

Mark, the same happened to my top of the line Mammut Goretex rag. Had sent it in, been told the membrane was torn, and warranty declined. Never again. My next one will be either a Sympatex or an eVent jacket.
Posted: Feb 28, 2012 fomer Mammut fan

Checking out waterproof breathable shells AGAIN this year - you can have both of my 2-years-old like-new, utterly useless, actually dangerous Patagonia shells. I'm lucky the weather broke just right. Patagonia apparently forgot the waterproofing entirely. A $10 K-Mart windbreaker has all the water-shedding ability of my $225 Patagonia soft-shell, the $120 shell meant for the bottom of the Camelbak is a little better - still life threatening in a drizzle above tree-line. Just starting to look - open to suggestions.
Posted: Dec 04, 2011 Mark

The goal was to test the top hardshells (waterproof/breathable shells), not necessarily find the most affortable. I've got the mt hardwear Jovian shell, super sleek design, light and comfortable despite what the article says about it being "stiff". Ponchos are waterproof, but so are windshields, breathability is an issue for those who really spend time working hard (backpacking, running) in wet weather.
Posted: Nov 29, 2011 john

I found this review helpful, and the effort that went in to testing it. However, Patagonia, Arcteryx, and other brands also put a lot into research. I would have liked to see more of the different models and brands tested. Is there a way to get more details on your research? I live in the Pacific Northwest, and so I need a shell that is secure and "bombproof" in heavy rain, and also in high-altitude high-wind conditions.
Posted: Oct 18, 2011 R. A.

I bought OR's Foray jacket last year for a 4 month stint in Montana's northern rocky's It handled every thing from a rogue hail storm to a 2 day soaker. And it took the abuse of 120+ days of harsh trail work without a tear
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Posted: Oct 17, 2011 Northernhikes

I have an Arcteryx shell and the DWR failed almost immediately unfortunately and the jacket wetted out. I doubt that is typical of Arcteryx (at least it better not be) which is why it would be nice to see some other brands including the Arc in this review.
Posted: Oct 15, 2011 Jeff

MARMOT Precip rain gear love it. pants & jackets for around $100 gloves for $45. never leave home without them.
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Posted: Oct 13, 2011 ghjkl

What a bunk list. No wonder this rag is dying. I switched to backpackinglight.com
Posted: Oct 05, 2011 Jimbo

i bought a nice northface rain jacket and after a half hour it soaked through, so my solution to rain... a 99c poncho. and if your pack is small enough it will both be a pack cover and a head covering. used one on the pct in washington this year and worked great
Posted: Sep 28, 2011 scarecrow

Arcteryx is superior to all of these.
Posted: Sep 28, 2011 Fred

It would have been helpful if Backpacker would have also listed in order ALL the other jackets. Not everyone has, or is willing, to spend $300 and up on a rain jacket. How about rain gear on a budget, ie around $100 or less?
Posted: Sep 27, 2011 Paul

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