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Backpacker Magazine – September 2009

Gear School: Liquid Fuel Stoves

These workhorse cookers are ideal for long expeditions, cold weather, and foreign adventures.

by: Kristin Hostetter, Illustration by Don Foley

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Sep 19, 2012

air pressure does not drop with temperature but the gas pressure inside the tank drops since the liquid gas does not evaporate anymore or at least less.
Check your physics text book

Cal 20 Sailor
Sep 18, 2012

To the Toms: The Svea 123 is Old School, man, and for those of us with watches taped to our noses, it takes WAAAYYYY to long (6-8 minutes!) to boil a quart of water! That's like ETERNITY, especially when you're all in a hurry in the backcountry rat-race... And the fact that the design hasn't changed at all in decades just 'cause it's reliable proves how undesirable it is: Gotta keep up with the times and get rid of the old and go with the new and "improved." Besides, consumerism is what keeps us all employed.

ted Liversidge
Sep 18, 2012

I've had a whisperlite, I've used for a lot years of and as a member of a search and rescue team have used it under all kinds of conditions. When I spent a month on a walk about in NZ, I had no problem finding fuels that worked well (some did soot up my pot up a tad). One point, if you fly, your fuel bottle can not smell of fuel when opened. I always put a little cooking oil in the empty bottle and coat the inside. My bottles have aways passed inspection at airports. To clean, add a little fuel, shake and dump.

Aug 28, 2012

i love my denali but to correct the article the denali does burn canister fuel too and i have never changed my jets i burn what is available and this stove has kept me safe from hypothermia on a trip before so not only do i enjoy the denali but i owe fingers and toes to it too

Laguna Hiker
Aug 28, 2012

I just took an MSR pocket rocket on a Sierras backpacking trip at camp altitudes of 10K to 13K feet. One canister was good for five nights and days for two people, and the stove performed well at altitude and cold. My water was boiling while my buddy was still priming his white-gas stove.

Leo in St. Louis
Aug 28, 2012

The article mentions the multifuel stove having interchangeable jets for the different fuels. Don't know about the others, but my MSR international burns all its fuels through the same jet.

Abbi Jordan
Apr 17, 2012

Twice on separate visits over the last two weeks Ive seen someone pull a fire blanket on a flaring liquid fuel stove in Pelion hut. We dont spend a lot of time around the huts so im wondering how often this happens.
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Abbi Jordan
Apr 17, 2012

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Jan 16, 2012

Jet fuel? Where would you buy jet fuel?

Jul 26, 2011

I've been using the MSR pocket rocket exclusively for probably 12-15 years ( right after they came out) I know all the short comings that people talk about but if one is careful those can be overcome. Yes it is wobbly, I've used it mostly for snow camping at around 8600'. If you keep the canister warm it puts out a good flame and by the time you've preheated your liquid fuel stove I'm having breakfast. The Rocket replaces my Wisperlite and a Coleman peak one, burned great but a little heavy. The other down side of the peak one was it's tendency to light the operator on fire on an alarmingly regular basis.

Still hang onto the wisperlite but always take one of my Pocket Rockets. Just wish the canisters were more environmentally friendly.

Eugene Groshong
Jul 26, 2011

The article didn't answer the question posed by the lead in: "Do I need a liquid fuel stove?"

Feb 23, 2010

I've used a several brands of stoves and so far my fav is the Primus (Himalaya) Multi Fuel - it's an old but reliable design. It offers finesse and rock n roll flames for all types of cooking style and most of all at a non-premium price.

Feb 17, 2010

In regards to a liquid fuel stove on an airline...
Get yourself an MSR WhisperLite internationale!!! Same as the normal WhisperLite but burns almost anything! Then, just find some Kerosene or Gasoline when you arrive at your destination. I've lived in Uganda for the last year and trek plenty! My MSR destroys all the other guy's canister stoves!!

Tom Mc Kay
Feb 16, 2010

I have had a SVEA Stove and SIGG Cookset for at least 40 years now (It must be a Tom thing!) - It goes thru years of disuse but starts right up every time I need it. The priming cup is trickey business - so I always carry an eye dropper (same one I got in 1969) and never start or use the stove inside a tent (as careful as I am I usually manage to set something on fire during the starting process). I drewal over MSR Dragonflys and MSR Whisperlites and would love to find a cooking set like the SIGG made of high quality Stainless Steel. I would prefer to buy high quality goods made in USA.

Ron King
Nov 22, 2009

The MSR Dragonfly is the best stove available. It can simmer easily, which means that you can do more than just boil water. It's fuel efficient too. It will hold pots and pans without accidentally dumping them and that's especially helpful when using the stove on uneven surfaces. Highly recommended!

Walk the Earth
Oct 15, 2009

Trail Tramper - the stove needs to be primed in order to heat the burner so that liquid fuel will vaporize when it hits it. If it is not hot enough to vaporize all of the fuel, some of the fuel will spill out on the surface that your stove is sitting on and catch fire there. I learned the functionality of priming the hard way with a wooden picnic table I was cooking on. Remember, only you (and those that read stove instructions or have a fire extinguisher readily available) can prevent forest fires.

Mended Wing
Oct 14, 2009

My hiking partner and I chose to use our tried and true Whisperlite on a 32 day South to North thru-hike of the JMT this summer. Not only was it dependable, it was so efficient in combination with the freezer bag food prep we had planned that we 1 liter of fuel lasted us 14 days. Camping at over 9,000 ft elevation most of the route, we boiled h2o every morning and every night without a single problem. But, has anyone figured out how to fly on commercial airlines with a liquid gas stove/fuel?

Oct 08, 2009

I have used a brass SVEA stove and a SIGG cookset for 30 years. The SVEA always starts and runs perfect so I wonder why everyone got rid of them.

Sep 29, 2009

MSR Whisperlite is the best stove I've owned. It's compact, light, and field maintenance is extremely easy when your in the backcountry.

Sep 29, 2009

To answer a question above, preheating is necessary to vaporize the fuel in the tube. The flame that heats your pot is the burning of the fuel in a gaseous form. Once the flame has already been going, the fuel cycles such that the flame preheats the fuel so it will be a gas when it comes out, but when you first ignite the stove, it is still a liquid. Hope that helps.

Sep 29, 2009

We only use liquid fuel stoves. I've had bad experiences with the canister style stoves 3 times now - freezing up and not being able to use it, etc. I'll never use one of those again. We've been backpacking for 26 years now and on our 3 stove. We LOVE the dragonfly. Being able to adjust the flame (like a home stove) is just fantastic. The dragonfly is very fuel efficient too.

Chief Iron Calves
Sep 29, 2009

Love my Dragon Fly. Very good for larger groups and the stove base holds a good size pot. This stove has been very dependable.

For smaller trips I use my peak 1 coleman stove. Had it since 1984 and still going strong. I did replace the generator only cause it got dropped.Excellent stove for simmering as is the dragon fly. Happy camping

Sep 28, 2009

Umm . . . dumb question, but the diagram doesn't explain this: Why exactly is preheating necessary?

I have an MSR Dragonfly and like it pretty well, though I far prefer the simplicity of the Coleman Feather 422 (which is too heavy for backpacking).

Erie Steve
Sep 28, 2009

Any recomendations on getting the final fuel out of a simmerlite. It always seems to sputter and go out when there is still 3 or 4 ounces of fuel remailing.

Desert Tarheel
Sep 24, 2009

Try hand sanitizer instead of liquid alcohol; it's a bit easier to work with.

Sep 24, 2009

I have a MSR Simmerlite and have always been disappointed in the size of the preheat flame. After playing with different ways to preheat I found the answer. I crack the fuel valve for about a second the shut it off. Fill the primer bowl with alcohal and light. When it's about burned out crack open the fuel valve and the blue starts right away. No more soot!! YEAH

Sep 24, 2009

Good maintenance info. Now I've got some work to do on my Whisperlite this weekend.


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