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Return of the Survivor: Q&A with Steve Friedman

In this exclusive Q&A, Steve Friedman talks about trying out the techniques of TV's survival show hosts Bear Grylls and Les Stroud in the (real) wild.

by: Ted Alvarez


Survival shows like Man vs. Wild and Survivorman are endless sources of guilty-pleasure entertainment–but can they actually help the hapless endure the perils of wilderness? In "I Will Survive," (October 2008) writer Steve Friedman decided to find out. An outdoor novice, he entered the Oregon backwoods with his more experienced 16-year-old nephew Eddie, hoping to weather nature's onslaught using wisdom gleaned from from Bear Grylls, Les Stroud, and John Rambo. Backpacker.com's TED ALVAREZ found out what worked, what didn't, and which superhero Friedman would take as his backcountry wingman.

Let's get right to it. You mention in the story you're much more accustomed to the world of comics and sci-fi than outdoors pursuits. If you headed back into the wild, which superhero would you ask to come along?

I'd say Silver Surfer, the early years. That's when he was a symbol of existential angst, a stranger in a strange land, separate from all humanity yet oddly drawn to the strange things (humans) and the mortal sensations they called "emotions." I identified. Plus, he had great super powers and that silver surfboard.

Ok, now back to the assignment. Out of all the techniques you tried from Survivorman and Man vs. Wild, which ones worked the best?

The spruce (or pine) tea was GREAT and the bed of pine (or spruce) boughs seemed very soft and would have been nice to sleep on. The wilderness compass was very cool and accurate (I checked it with a compass) and the 'tinder bundle' made of wood shavings and 'old man's beard" was super flammable.

Which techniques from those shows failed completely?

Making a fire without matches. Even with a flint/metal gizmo that created sparks, I could not for the life of me make those sparks translate into a fire.

I would love to feel like I could go into the wilderness without matches, or having lost my matches, and be able to make fire. That said, at least I now know about tinder bundles. And I'm glad my nephew and aide-de-camp Eddie had matches.

Which, if any, wilderness techniques will you remember, say, 10 years from now?

That ninety percent of blue/blackberries are edible, fifty percent of red berries are edible, and only 10 percent of white berries are edible-ut I got that tip from an ex-army guy, not Bear or Les. Also, that live grasshoppers can carry tapeworms.

Overall, who was more instructive–Les Stroud or Bear Grylls?

I identified more with Les, in his dour, stoic I-will-survive-no-matter-how-crappy-this-gets vibe. Bear did things that seemed insane under any circumstances, but especially so when he was ostensibly alone in the backcountry. When you separate out their personalities, I think the nuggets of wisdom were of about equal value.

Which one would you most like to have had there in the wilderness with you?

Les seemed to spend most of his energy reasonably, spotting and avoiding danger, whereas Bear liked to court danger, then show how he could wriggle from its clutches. Bear would probably be more fun to hang out with, but you might die in the process.

Were you satisfied by your experience of quasi-wilderness survival, or are you left hungering to go back and test yourself again?

I don't really have a big desire to test myself, but I feel nominally more confident that I could survive without my French press coffee maker if I had to.

What's the manliest thing you've done since completing the story?

I put together a bookshelf from Staples. For Eddie's 16th birthday, I flew him to NYC and rode the subway with him to Coney Island. We had hot dogs and watched the "Shoot the Freak" show.

 

 

For more on Steve Friedman, check out his website at stevefriedman.net



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Cuzin Vinny
Apr 19, 2009

I always carry a small zip-lock bag stuffed with a mixture of dryer lint, candle wax shavings, and small pieces of wood kindling I find in the streets. Into this I also toss a small butane lighter. I once started a fire, with soaking wet wood, in the pouring rain on an overnight hike in the Catskills.

JL
Apr 09, 2009

I teach in an college outdoor program and the frightening thing about those shows, especially Bear Grylls', is that many young people I teach are not filtering the good from the bad. Sure, pine tea is nice, but crossing a rapid on a log is not a good practice.

Troy
Mar 16, 2009

Hey guys, firefighter and backpacker here. The best tinder I've found so far is the same stuff that starts dryer fires and its unbelieveably light weight. Try dryer lint next time, it takes a spark like nothing else I've found.

adventuresurvivalist3357
Jan 01, 2009

Starting a fire with a light my fire firesteel is really easy and if you scrape off some of the flint without sparking it you can use that as a "magnesium" to start you fire.
Tip: buy jute twine and shred it to light but beware it lights like gasoline.

Steve C
Dec 30, 2008

Once again BP shows it has a healthy sense of humor. Fun read. I'm glad he had his trusty sidekick. He's like Tonto or the guy from Lord of the Rings.

Learning to make fire without matches is a challenge, but don't give up. A great help for learning flint & steel are historical reinactors. I got a great kit w/ video from James Townsend & Son, who specialize in early American reinacting. The kit was so good I loaned it to my boss who swears he returned it..... The link is www.jas-townsend.com. (and no I'm not connected to them).

Mike
Dec 28, 2008

Don't forget that you can always toss in a bic lighter or two as a back up to any firestarting kit!

Mike
Dec 28, 2008

My 10 year old is able to strike a fire with true flint and steel and can do it with complete success! We keep a length of Hemp rope as emergency tinder that we completely untwist and add a little char cloth and it works every time. Very easy! Look it up online and practice ALL new skills BEFORE you go out into the field! Be familiar with the gear you choose to carry.

John
Nov 20, 2008

I agree with Tony. Do not rely on the 90% to be in your favor. You are more than likely going to find the 10% at sometime. It is best to learn and recognize the berries that exist in your area so you know what you CAN eat. If you do not recognize it, do not eat it. It could put you in a world of hurt that you really do not need.

Tony
Nov 15, 2008

Fire with no matches is actually quite simple if you got the technique down, but it is a challenge asking a novice right off the bat. In fact in Oregon, the Pacific Northwest, we have western red cedar to serving as the ideal bow drill wood. I do agree with the value of the one match fire ABOVE using a bow drill (matchless fire). It is a better skill to have, especially in a landscape where you can crawl under a log, have a fire and stay dry and warm enough with some insulation underneath (again western Oregon). Yet avoid relying on moss, one it is alive, so leave no trace is not helped here and two when there is even a lick of moisture in the air, you are not getting anything going. There are ways to harvest strips of already peeling cedar bark that is actually healthy for the tree and combine this with Western Hemlock twigs (prepared and handled in the proper way) and you have an Oregon fire that will even light in the worst rain. Also, the berry advice is bad advice, while these axioms and anecdotes are true, please don't really on it go get you past the 10% that is actually toxic. Remember, everything that can go wrong, will. That is part of the fun.

Dave
Oct 22, 2008

I also agree its all about the tinder,I tried lint from my socks, from Les, and vasaline cotton balls with the steel and after 3 or 4 tries,first 3 poor aim,I had a flame.

skip
Oct 17, 2008

I agree with the statement "it's all about the tinder." That along with the proper construction of your materials, will almost always result in a lasting fire. A metal match is a great backup.

Harry
Oct 04, 2008

I agree with the first two guys. Fire steels have never failed me either. I have probably half a dozen spread around my gear. I think practicing until you can get it to work is a worthwhile skill and is time well spent.

El
Sep 09, 2008

I agree with Shawn. I actually don't even carry matches anymore. I find they're difficult to light, and if they get wet, you're screwed. I got a metal match for Christmas a few years ago (actually, the same one Bear uses) and I'm just now at the point where I need to get a new one.

Shawn
Sep 02, 2008

"Which techniques from those shows failed completely?

Making a fire without matches. Even with a flint/metal gizmo that created sparks, I could not for the life of me make those sparks translate into a fire. "

Wow, with all due respect what survivalist CAN'T start a fire with a metal match? Matches will run out before a striker stops working. Plus it is almost indestructable & water proof. It's all in the tinder.

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