Winter Camping: Gear & Clothing

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(*Size) "Elbows should be bent to 90 degrees" - This is a great way to end up with poles that are too short!. Look at your equiptment and see how much height is added below your feet. AT skis, for example, might add 2" below your feet. Size poles with no footware using the 90 degree rule (holding BELOW the basket) and add on whatever height your equiptment adds below your feet. If your equiptment gives you 2" and your barefoot pole size (held BELOW the basket) is 50", get 52" poles...

(*Size) "Elbows should be bent to 90 degrees" - This is a great way to end up with poles that are too short!. Look at your equiptment and see how much height is added below your feet. AT skis, for example, might add 2" below your feet. Size poles with no footware using the 90 degree rule (holding BELOW the basket) and add on whatever height your equiptment adds below your feet. If your equiptment gives you 2" and your barefoot pole size (held BELOW the basket) is 50", get 52" poles...

Pole sizing suggestion is wrong - Zize poles by grabbing UNDER (not above) the basket while the pole is upside down. This negates the length of pole that will be inserted into the snow. Flipping the pole over and holding above the basket is no different than holding the pole upright!

I am going to disagree with the statement about supplementing the temperature rating of a sleeping bag with clothes. I used to carry items that served one purpose. I learned better. The trick is to not have only one way to combine clothes and a sleeping bag to be comfortable. Always have a dry layer to put on before going to sleep. One of the most common sources of getting cold is to get cold air in around your neck. Take a tee shirt or other over-the-head garment and pull it over your head but leave it around the neck. This makes a great baffle to keep out cold air as you twist and turn at night. My personal problem with most sleeping bags is that they are too small. I have a 54 inch chest and arms and shoulders to match. The only reasonable weight bags that I have found are Sierra Designs "stretch" bags and even those have to be the long versions to get the required girth.

I am going to disagree with the statement about supplementing the temperature rating of a sleeping bag with clothes. I used to carry items that served one purpose. I learned better. The trick is to not have only one way to combine clothes and a sleeping bag to be comfortable. Always have a dry layer to put on before going to sleep. One of the most common sources of getting cold is to get cold air in around your neck. Take a tee shirt or other over-the-head garment and pull it over your head but leave it around the neck. This makes a great baffle to keep out cold air as you twist and turn at night. My personal problem with most sleeping bags is that they are too small. I have a 54 inch chest and arms and shoulders to match. The only reasonable weight bags that I have found are Sierra Designs "stretch" bags and even those have to be the long versions to get the required girth.

This article is grossly misleading about winter backpacking/camping. I define winter backpacking as cold weather backpacking because it rarely snows in the Southeastern United States during the winter months. Snow does not equate to winter backpacking. I use the same UL gear for winter backpacking as I do for the spring and fall except for my clothing and sleeping bag. I have never had the need for an ice pick, four season tent, snow shoes, or any other gear needed for snow.

Mike, regarding the midlayer question, in winter I will wear a fleece or wool sweater. But one midlayer that I almost always 'go-to' is a Pendleton wool shirt. It adds the perfect layer. It goes great year-round. Light-weight, breathable. Nearly indestructable, it will last for years. I've got some of my grandad's wool shirts and I use them all the time, but especially in the woods.

Sorry for my bad English writing. I hope you'll understeand it any way.

Don't forgett to cover you're head propperly.

I carry a waterproof breathable shell (Marmot's "Membrane"), between that and my baselayer I use a thick fleece (Patagonia's "Synchilla") I also take a midweight thermal top or thin fleece. I can use these layers in any combination or all together for whatever temperature I encounter. I try to stay away from softshells in the outdoor setting because they seem to snag a lot easier than a typical shell. It works for me, maybe it will help you.

I carry a waterproof breathable shell (Marmot's "Membrane"), between that and my baselayer I use a thick fleece (Patagonia's "Synchilla") I also take a midweight thermal top or thin fleece. I can use these layers in any combination or all together for whatever temperature I encounter. I try to stay away from softshells in the outdoor setting because they seem to snag a lot easier than a typical shell. It works for me, maybe it will help you.

everyone is always talking about shells. I don't understand what would be right to wear between my baselayer and shell. I looked at softshells and rain proof hard shells at REI. Do most people carry both ? They didn't look too comfortable to wear together. Can someone elaborate on all this ?

DIY Tip #10 recommends putting a closed cell pad under your inflatable sleep pad. One of those silver car windshield reflectors works well, and it's smaller, cheaper and lighter.

I snowshoe and winter camp in the boundary waters. The only boots i would recommend are mukluks. Much warmer than any other boot I've used. Perfect for travel on lakes or over tundra type conditions. I shy away from synthetic materials and wear wool as much as possible with an arctic anorak shell. Synthetic stuff is much less durable in the woods and less practical around campfires and stoves.

I'd have to agree with others about VBL socks. However, I think this only applies to very cold conditions. I hiked to the top of a Colorado (5 miles 5000 feet of elev. change up and down) peak last week with temps in the low 20s and teens and just wore a pair of Merino wool socks. My feet were just right. Now if I were stopping for several hours and standing around I'd put on dry socks and maybe some down booties.
As for gloves, I just do the toddler method and string a 3mm cord through my sleeves and tie them to my gloves with a rewoven figure 8.

I saw a Nat Geo show once where a trapper skinned a beaver which had just been removed from the water. He put it into the snow, shook it around and worked some snow into it... presto! The snow had so little moisture that it sucked out the water.

I thank Jopado for the freeze dry method. I use an '83 travel trailer a lot. It has been sub-freezing in northeastern PA for the last week (global warming my "Al Gore".) I have insulated the door edges. But putting damp articles to seal the windows works very well as does electric heaters and a -20 bag. The condensation actually helps seal the window. nyrefugee2000@yahoo.com Ric

I've got a Bibler Fitzroy and have never had a problem with condensation on the inside. Typically leave the front door open about an inch (with vestibule on) and the inside stays nice and warm with no condensation. The only condensation I've had is on the vestibule.

Whan winter camping you MUST use a VBL (Vapro Barrier Liner) for your feet, even with military "Mickey Mouse" boots, to keep them dry. And, if at all possible, try to wear some kind of double boot, i.e. a boot with a removable insulating liner. This is so you can remove the liner and put it in your sleeping bag so you'll have warm feet when fixing breakfast and breaking camp. Nothing in winter camping is as aggravating as painfully cold feet in the morning.

Most plastic Telemark boots have removable liners. The classic "double boot" is a feltpack. But these felt liners must be kept dry with a VBL sock.

At night take your empty boot shells and telescope one top inside the other to keep out blowing snow. Place them in the vestibule.

Personally I prefer thin neoprene diver's socks that I've seam sealed. I use thin polypro liner sox inside them and change them out every night with clean ones. The VBL socks get turned inside out and put in your bag to dry overnight.

Follow this routine and you'll have warm feet every morning.

I've found that if I spray the inside of my winter tent fly with Techtron DWR spray frost will shake off much easier in the morning. This also applies to the lower (waterproofed) inside tent walls.

To keep this inside "wall frost" from being melted by the warmth of the foot of my sleeping bag (& dampening it) I zip up my GTX mountain parka, pull the sleeves inside, cinch down the hood and put the foot of my sleeping bag inside the parka. This also gives a few more degrees of warmth to your foot and lower leg area. I call it my "1/4 bivy".