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Ask A Bear: Is Submerged Food Safe?

Got a burning ursine question? Ask our resident bruin expert in our weekly feature, 'Ask A Bear.'

Q: Does sealing food and sinking it in a lake or river create an odor barrier that will prevent you from finding and partaking of my food? —John, via email

A: If you've got reliable waterproof bags on you when you go camping, the combination of plastic and submerging your food underwater will create an odor barrier that should keep me from narfing on your vittles. Several layers of plastic bags are key, though: Contrary to popular belief, a single plastic bag is slightly odor-permeable, so you should use more than one to back it up. Between the several layers of plastic and the lake or river water, I probably won't be able to sniff out your Lucky Charms.

But there's one element that keeps this from being a foolproof technique: Submerging your food in a lake or river will do nothing to keep me from seeing your stores of snacky goodness. Since I regularly prowl riverbanks and lake shores for fish, carrion, and other natural goodies, I'd stand a decent chance of getting curious about your underwater foodbag. Remember, I can spot fish cruising by in dark, rushing water well enough to catch them in my mouth mid-air, so don't think I won't notice your Oreos bobbing just below the surface. Are you willing to take that chance?

To be 100-percent safe, you'd have to paddle out to the middle of a large lake, weight and submerge your cache, and attach a buoy so you could find it. That's not going to be fun when oatmeal time comes the following morning, so given all the hassle involved, you're probably better off using a bear canister and shoving it into a deep rock crevice or atop a large boulder (we're crappy rock climbers) far from camp.

—BEAR

Got a question for the bear? Send it to askabear@backpacker.com.

READERS COMMENTS

Ooops! Unfortunately, bears are excellent rock climbers. I've seen them scale overhangs, to boot. Best not to store a canister on a rock - in case a bear throws it around. If it hits a rock the right (or wrong) way, a canister will break.
Posted: Nov 25, 2009 Anne

You ever tried to submerge a plastic bag full of anything? Unless it's full of water you're going to have a tough time of it. A bag or canister would be infinitely easier.
Posted: Nov 20, 2009 dropkick

Just ask a Boy Scout: Bears can certainly find water bottles full of Crystal Light that are submerged in a stream. Whether through scent or sight, I don't know, but they will find them.
Posted: Nov 19, 2009 RP

This answer sounds like speculation to me.
Is there any evidence that a bear will wade out into a lake or river after a dry bag on the bottom?
Posted: Nov 13, 2009 Jeff

i thought bears had poor eyesight...
Posted: Nov 12, 2009 luc

Growl Bear, Great ideas about hiding your vittles or anything else you don't want something with teeth and claws to find. So now I don't have to climb a tree to get out of your way. All I have to do is find a tall rock. Sounds intelligent to me.
Posted: Nov 12, 2009 Ric.. NYREFUGEE2000

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